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Ramble
So...going back to a statement that came out of an acid trip back in 2005, Hitler Had the Right Idea.
What I mean by this is that I think Hitler had the right idea...with the kind of unity he was creating. That sort of unity can not be achieved by a nation of "freedom" or "liberty". In truth, America isn't free at all - we like to talk about it like it is, like we have freedom of thought, freedom of speech, freedom of opportunity and choice...in reality, we have none of these things, but we also do not have the unity which Nazi Germany achieved. As a result, we are going to decline - we are already in a state of it, in fact.
We do not have freedom of choice, or opportunity. Those of us who are not incredibly poor, or rich, can not gain the education necessary to have opportunity without indentured service. One could easily argue that the amount of debt remaining from a necessary "higher education" is likely worse than the debt incurred by poor immigrants during colonization.
We do not have freedom of speech, or thought. The consequences of radical ideology - and more importantly - being outspoken about it - are far reaching. Socially, devastating. One can lose all degree of credibility by being an advocate for ideas that are not part of popular opinion, that aren't expressed via the media and most methods of common consumption of information.
We have none of these freedoms, and our level of nationalism is essentially nonexistent in comparison to Nazi Germany.
Hitler had the right idea. He was a fascist, he was a genocidal sociopath. But he had the right idea. And I can understand why a philosopher like Heidegger was attracted to the power of the Nazi Party. It united people, regardless of their societal status, and gave them a higher purpose. It brought people together under one unified ideal - to produce a utopian society that would reign for eternity. And if we desire to survive as a race, we will need to achieve this end eventually, whether we like collectivism or not. The power of atomic weapons, and the threat of global catastrophe, is far too high to not.
What I mean by this is that I think Hitler had the right idea...with the kind of unity he was creating. That sort of unity can not be achieved by a nation of "freedom" or "liberty". In truth, America isn't free at all - we like to talk about it like it is, like we have freedom of thought, freedom of speech, freedom of opportunity and choice...in reality, we have none of these things, but we also do not have the unity which Nazi Germany achieved. As a result, we are going to decline - we are already in a state of it, in fact.
We do not have freedom of choice, or opportunity. Those of us who are not incredibly poor, or rich, can not gain the education necessary to have opportunity without indentured service. One could easily argue that the amount of debt remaining from a necessary "higher education" is likely worse than the debt incurred by poor immigrants during colonization.
We do not have freedom of speech, or thought. The consequences of radical ideology - and more importantly - being outspoken about it - are far reaching. Socially, devastating. One can lose all degree of credibility by being an advocate for ideas that are not part of popular opinion, that aren't expressed via the media and most methods of common consumption of information.
We have none of these freedoms, and our level of nationalism is essentially nonexistent in comparison to Nazi Germany.
Hitler had the right idea. He was a fascist, he was a genocidal sociopath. But he had the right idea. And I can understand why a philosopher like Heidegger was attracted to the power of the Nazi Party. It united people, regardless of their societal status, and gave them a higher purpose. It brought people together under one unified ideal - to produce a utopian society that would reign for eternity. And if we desire to survive as a race, we will need to achieve this end eventually, whether we like collectivism or not. The power of atomic weapons, and the threat of global catastrophe, is far too high to not.
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We have essentially the same amount of disparity that existed in feudal empires...why is this acceptable? We have improved our lives in every other way, manufacturing has become child's play essentially, but we can not distribute wealth more equitably?
Are you ignoring the atrocities that America and its western allies have committed? Why are these past and present wars morally acceptable to you, more so than the forced removal of jews out of Germany, or the killing of those jews? Is it okay that it took Germany essentially until the 1980s to rebuild itself, when as you said, most of the people were "carried along" by the nazi party? Thanks to sanctions and penalties by our fair nations?
Is it okay that we gave their scientists asylum, forgave their war crimes, and have utilized their technology to allow for a great deal of the technology we have today?
If nazi germany is so fundamentally evil to you, why is it you accept the evils of our empires?
Let me at the least, point this out:
Well over six million innocents have died as a direct result of American imperialism. I can guarantee that - I'm pretty sure you know it's true. Just because Nazi Germany seemed to be selectively slaying a particular race, does not make it any more evil than the killing of six million people of various ancestry. Neither does the killing of that number of decades, or hundreds of years.
Are you forgetting about native americans? America created an empire from the east to west, brutally murdering these peoples and taking all of their natural resources, wealth and land, and then leaving them to poverty. It sounds pretty familiar to me.
I think it is very dangerous to ignore these things and hold up a group like Nazi Germany as though it is the epitome of evil. Unless you believe human beings are inherently evil, it would be hard to explain why so many people, well educated and not, were attracted to it. But hey, they had propaganda just like we do today - and ours is far more effective - and maybe that explains why people of the west have a strong tendency to ignore what's going on, and always point their fingers outward.