AMOG

Dec. 31st, 2009 04:51 pm
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So, for whoever wants to denounce this PUA stuff as bullshit, feel free. But some of it is rather accurate.

AMOGs do exist.

The guy that tried to start shit with me the night I wrecked my car = AMOG. If I knew what I did -now- I would've tried to push him right into beta. Although looking back I kinda was doing just that, I was just a little too inebriated and tired to put any real effort into it.

He was saying obnoxious, stupid shit to try and qualify himself as dominant.

He asked if I was looking at his ass while I was watching the pool game he was involved in after my own, and when I said, "No?" in a really annoyed tone, he qualified him paying attention to me by saying, "Oh, I thought you were gay or something" when in reality this probably had more to do with the girl sitting at the table he was originally at -LOOKING AT ME A FUCKING LOT- However, the annoyed tone i gave him and the resulting response is a sign I was making him feel inferior, which brings us to the final part before he leaves the bar (probably he left with his friend because they needed to find somewhere else to try and game, although it is entirely possible that after that pool game with matt he didn't want to stick around with a guy like me he already insulted there)

Near the end of the pool match, he actually expends the energy to walk over to me and touch my face, and call me a "pretty boy." The attempt as an AMOG is an expression of dominance, possibly an attempt to call me out, but the fact I -don't say anything at all in response- and continue with watching the game is indeed a kind of role reversal. I didn't sulk, and I didn't let my body language show that he had any impact on how I felt. Suffice to say there were probably a million directions I could've gone in more intellectual spheres to prove dominance externally, but I didn't choose any.

The guy was all brawn, no brains whatsoever. A fucking retard at best. And i doubt he scored as much as I did in my past so far, or could hook a girl long enough to.

Yeah...

Date: 2009-12-31 11:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sendao.livejournal.com
go ahead and start a fight with the gay body builder. That's a GREAT idea.

Re: Yeah...

Date: 2010-01-01 03:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sathor.livejournal.com
Dude, he wasn't a body builder. He was like a foot shorter than me and skinnier as well. Lol.

I would've pwnt him. I didn't mean start a physical altercation anyway - I meant turn him beta by showing him I am smarter and more charismatic than he is.

Re: Yeah...

Date: 2010-01-01 05:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sendao.livejournal.com
This isn't a wolfpack - there's no such thing as a 'beta' human male. There are just assholes who think they're alphas because their libido finally overcame their respect for women, and nice guys who don't want to look like assholes by getting in a fight with a retarded dickhead. Be very careful where you tread.

Re: Yeah...

Date: 2010-01-02 02:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sathor.livejournal.com
I'll agree to disagree!

This is a wolf pack. Maybe it is not as cohesive in larger cities, where more new people come and go at any given time. But there are still individual packs that come together in the same places - AMOGs are real - and they can cause problems.

If a group of guys walks into a bar, there is almost certainly -one- that is the alpha of the group. He is -leading- them. Yes -this makes a difference-. It is not always the case in mindset (as in, maybe I'm annoyed I'm walking behind my two friends - I'm not okay with the fact either of them are proclaiming themselves alpha of this group in particular to everyone who looks subconsciously, but there's not enough room on the sidewalk for a third in front, and I'm not going to run around them to get ahead.)

I do agree with your assessment, however, that they are guys who think they are alphas because their libido finally overcame their respect for women - this is mostly true. I see a lot of guys kinda make their mates isolate and whatnot, hell - even I did it to a degree before - but I see while that is an alpha activity, it's not healthy for the relationship or for your partner, and guys who do that are really just signing their own death warrants.

I'm glad I didn't fight him - I didn't want too.

I don't know why you are so worried about where I'm treading. I'm starting to feel a lot better about myself studying this stuff...and maybe it's exactly what I needed, as someone with a really powerful mind, to finally be "normal" socially. If I can be normal socially, I'll have the kind of influence and life I've always desired, yeah?

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