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[sathor]

Why does it seem like a lot of the people I meet have massive egos?

ESPECIALLY girls.

Just curious...

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[azureatmosphere.livejournal.com]

Because we grew up in the "everyone is special" generation and experienced far too much ego-stroking as children.

[sathor.livejournal.com]

Do you think it's more flirtatious for a girl to talk herself up to a guy, or not talk about herself much?

[mystic-waves.livejournal.com]

Because I'm fucking special goddamnit! Why females? ...because we watched our mothers and sisters get shoved down by everything she encountered in life. Because we are the offspring of the feminist movement and we were told we can fight for what's ours and that we are allowed to be women and have opinions,thoughts, and voices that matter. But in experience we are contradicted by social backlash when expressed (you don't even want me to elaborate on how, so I'll be kind and not). So we constantly have to defend our voices and fight to be heard. We learn from this, and always express on defense and it comes across as egotistical.

Your question outlines my point perfectly. "Do you think it's more flirtatious for a girl to talk herself up to a guy, or not talk about herself much?" Cut it down to basics:

Situation A - Girl talks herself up
She could be seen as "better than, egotistical, braggy, etc" by the guy and feeling worthless the male leaves. The stereotypical "boys don't want to feel outdone by girls in competition" is forced into our heads at a young age.

Situation B - not talk about herself much
And we have established a basis to justify turning said female into just an object whose purpose is to listen, and not express her own feelings/ personal experiences. It's what she "wants to do" b/c she is doing it...

This is not how most people want to consciously look at the scenario. We want to feel like we got over this social hurdle and focus on the more complex surrounding...such as personality of the people in the specific situation.

But when your talking about American culture, we all grew up with barbie in girl's Happy Meals and hot wheels in boy's...we all received the same social background encryption that sneaks into the subconscious when social interactions take place. And those trained subconscious forces dictate conscious thought in social interactions.

And jumping from that feminist rant...look around...most people are fucking stupid. Most people I'm assuming you talk to look around and agree people are fucking stupid. Then they look down and say...surely I'm not one of these asshole retarded bitches right? Presto! Ego born...

[sathor.livejournal.com]

Oh no...

This one proclaimed that she could play every instrument I could name off...was going to med school for nursing (then radiology, then neurology) etc...

I, in all seriousness, asked her if she was a savant (that's what you would be if this were the case?)

She said no...

I am not objectifying her. I barely could say anything about myself because she spent the whole time talking to me about herself - which I do not mind. I suppose, maybe you are right - most men don't give women the floor?

[mystic-waves.livejournal.com]

I did not mean that to be a personal attack by the way...but your question did piss me off because it really is a loose/loose situation from the female's perspective. And I don't think you look at it in that deep of a perspective when you asked it. Your case may be she was one of those people that get chatty when they are nervous. Or that she just wanted to brag...or maybe she really anted to impress you? And hey, I could play any instrument that you named off, just none of them in a way you might want to listen (if you catch my drift). I don't feel being educated in a broad spectrum makes one a savant, I think being deeply rooted in one subject makes one a savant...but I'm no word buff :/

[mystic-waves.livejournal.com]

anted... the w is invisible...really....it's this new technology...yeeeeaaaaahhhhh....

[sathor.livejournal.com]

I was worried she was nervous, some of her body language came off that way. Which leaves me thinking I'm creepy (6'3" guy in steel toe sneakers and bondage shorts with a tool shirt?) dude?

I mean, she was very cool, and VERY VERY cute. So I couldn't see why she would be nervous.

Yah...bleh

[sathor.livejournal.com]

I mean...well, at least she held conversation with me. Most people don't even try to keep up...

Hopefully I'm not creepy -shivers-

[mystic-waves.livejournal.com]

steel toe sneakers huh..."they" make those?

[sathor.livejournal.com]

Yes, they do.

Cool huh?

[sathor.livejournal.com]

Oh, and I wear them for work...

It's just that I was wearing my regular shoes at work instead the other day, and stepped in a massive puddle. Instant soakage. So the steel toes were on even during the weekend.

Fun.

[sathor.livejournal.com]

I had to sit down next to her...haha...no other spots

All the other guys in the room (like 5) wouldn't sit next to her on the couch.

And then I did some palmistry...good stuff